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hey there Paul Andros rule!
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hello
sound is good
packers 14 bears 0 end of 1st in rain delay
theres lightning in the area
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welcome Russ
whew! thought it was going to be another fight with the 'puter to get audio but if finally started up
huzzah!!
hows the monster book coming Russ?
REALLY good
I look forward to it 
how soon?
Last night I was working on which Kzinti carrier/escorts to match up with new eels I have 
that sounds like fun
Part of project is giving the core monsters a makeover and that turned out way better than I ever thought
Moray is still a moray but now I have Conger eels
a new monster
The Hope Crusher is a new (nastier) planet crusher. The Amoeba so far stays the same but the "chance" system and advanced how to kill change play alot
Funny thing, i didn't catch what you were saying about the Baul until later that night
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since I'm throwing out the Hope as a 3rd level upgrade of the Sheboygan III Crusher, I might have to sneak a line in the fiction about
the Baul incident
welcome BST
Hi Dave
yup the bahl crusher
hehehehehe
Good thing there is a new planet killer mini coming out 
If I'm careful in the delivery I might be able to get that in there
I saw that! drooling
the planet Bahl 
Bahl 2 hehehehehehe
Bahl 3???
could run away with all the possiblities
If your only option is to win at range 0 you have a pretty limited game.
Sort of by accident, the crusher and the eels are scalable for tougher (X-ships, DNs, Carriers) so there is room for 3 Bahls. lol
hehehehehehehehe
ESG is two space, right?
game is back on start of the 2nd quarter
delay over
still 14-0?
yes
Dangerous.
Or if he tractors them
Boo boo happens
lot B
Shame - no excuses. should have duct taped it to your head
If you are worried about not finding your car in the parking lot, light it on fire before you leave
I always do
3/1 sounds much nicer than 4
Of course your arcs and turn mode means you need to force the other guy to run so victory might depend on who you fight
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Hey Nion
Hiya.
ugh
Sorry to be coming in late. Sounds like we're talking about option mounts
Why take fusions when you can take P1s?
Yep AuxBC option mounts
At close range
I'd take the PH-1s in the wings, over fusions. More flexibility, better power management
Agree
Suicide OL fusions, OL hellbore then you're at 20 points into torps. ouch
So does shooting phasers
yeah.. too much power. Not enough into speed or bricking
With the WAX, I've had great succeess with the (HHBB). Fusions instead of drones is illegal in the WAX, because you can only have 2 foreign weapons
What does the AuxBC have for power
24/3/10?
the WAX has 13 power after HK and speed 30.
yep
Ok so 37
HHBB?? Im slow tonight
Hellbore, hellbore, B-rack, B-rack
That is what I played
oh ok thanks 
yeah. I saw that. it warmed my heart
I have a URL where I collated the options used in the Netkill for a couple of years
Correction - suicide OL Fusions cost 7 so its 14+12= 26 into torps for full overload
Standard overloads use 20 points of power leaving you with 13 points into movement after housekeeping. I'm thinking those B racks sound nice.
whoa! hard to swallow as the WAX (assuming the WAX could do it.. only 2 foreign weapons)
Cool Neon, whats the URL?
http://sfb.mattnet.org/tournament/option_mounts.html
That page is complete awesome
[nods at Paul] Usually I fire both HBs in Direct-fire mode, with the phasers, to crash the shield. It takes another firing of the HBs to take advantag
Thanks Dave!
Package (HHBB) has played 68 battles, won 32 battles and has lost 36 battles.
Package (HgBD) has played 15 battles, won 8 battles and has lost 7 batt
Are you usually turning out right after fire? It would seem OK to fire the second HB in normal mode for the same effect and pickup wrap damage
If both hit, yes, Dave. But you aren't guaranteed to that.
Good point
Usually I alpha with direct-fire HBs, turn out, then launch drones if he pursuits
6 drones is hard to charge through.. Particularly if you want to fire at the guy when you finish
that site - That is great stuff Neonpico!
I am Matt. yes.
Thanks Russ
That is the Long Island Iced Tea, Paul
HgBD is the LIIT
You might want to mentiuon the URL, Paul. So the people listening can find the webpage also
will do
It would be tough for me to give up the flexibility of the gat in any configuration that could spare a space. It gives you defensive options, offensiv
options and is terrific in power consumption
It does, Dave
It is the most powerful weapon to give a WAX. The HB is the second-most-powerful
Hey I might try the septo-gat pig next set
Thanks Paul
There you go, Dave
I've played the Octo pig in the last couple of weeks. Itr was fun, but un-powerful
How do you mean?
Well.. seeker-only packages are obvious overrun packages. The other guy usually can expect to see the anchor
Right
so you counter an anchor package with weasels and an alpha as he closes. Plus, if you can, put off the anchor for a couple of blasts at him with speed
yeah but you only have six rounds of drones.
indeed. the extra two racks give you some extra rounds
true
true, you only have four. But you might use two of them when he overruns. That aught to give you another shot at him before he can cycle and overrrun
(four weasels)
Well that range 1 unanswered alpha is going to hurt more than a couple of drones. You lose the tractor and you're screwed
both I mean
indeed. Weaselling off the first overrun, even if you use a third weasel to do it, is totally worth it. you can defeal a seeker package on their own o
.. their own overrrun
To get to him you're running through either plasma, his drones or web - or you're going to range 1 on the nose of an overloaded fed. The last might
actually be the safest
ha ha
usually the way to defeat the plasma ballet, is by eating an EPT. In the case of a seeker package, you might want to eat the first one
21-0 almost half time
Yes, but he is going to know that you want to get to 0 and that you probably want to do it turn 2.
indeed, Dave. So if I were teh Gorn, I'd launch the EPT, and expect to follow it up with a pair of Fs. SAve the S for when he anchors
Launch as close to the end of the turn as you can and hopefully be able to turn to head away I assume?
as the seeker guy, I would want to pull what plasma I could (maybe rush the first EPT to pull more plasma, then turn off and run it out)
I think I've been dropped. Can you see this post?
I can see your post, Dave
You still have audio?
I do
k, going to log out and back in again. sigh
sorry
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There we go
\o/
Saw it in my last World League.. won that one
how about Frax Subs? cloak anfd fire?
I'm going to estimate the probability of changing the official cloaking rules to that at...hm...do they make negative numbers that apply to probabilit
Yes, along with seeking photon torpedos.
i'd like to see that. :> I think it'd be fun
-- the subs
I hope to do frax sub models for ADB next month...at least 1 type
21-7 half time
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I suppose so, Mclawson. I'm not sure what you mean
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aahhh!
Like Paul said, to have an actual mini for the Frax subs
let me shake your hand, McLawson
Axion torpedos
Axion Trops are the Subs DF weapon. Not like drones. But they can launch real drones while cloaked
argh. teenage daughters eat internet bandwidth faster than cash.
lol
Yeah. I've been bugging you alot recently, Paul, to get the ModC4 stuff working in the Client
I've heard that Cloaking on the first turn against the ISC is an effective tactic
Makes sense.
He is likely to be enveloping one torp and doesn't have many options for sub hunting
yeah.. an Anti-PPD tactic. It allows you to get in close, where your alpha can do better
riight
tricky
It's possible but you really need to manage the movement
when you go ballistic with teh SP, you pretty much have to do random tagetting. But the IFF of it will not target your own ship
Plus, you can tell the SP to target only certain Size Classes.
yep but it's managing drone on drone stuff that is tricky. You will almost always be in front of your scatterpack and often moving faster than 20
so you can do ballistic taregtting, set to a certain range, and a certain SC.
that means you need to double back to drag drones behind you into it if you want to get a hit.
right, Dave. To keep from getting swatted by both drones
Yep but if you have the luxury of running from drones you have already bought more time to deal with them via phasers, your own drones or whatever.
It's closing or at point blank that they get really dangerous
Night all!
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night Lawson
Good stuff, definitely save the chat Paul 
I agree
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Cool, night all
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night Dave
take care Dave
night guys
take care Russ
cya
see ya Paul Andros ruule!
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